tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post5900319951892911306..comments2024-03-23T14:08:24.794-07:00Comments on Nouveau Cheap: Sinful ColorsG.http://www.blogger.com/profile/16658662222451658254noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-69455822972322041892014-01-27T06:58:47.612-08:002014-01-27T06:58:47.612-08:00Sinful colours have been dropped by Boots (in the ...Sinful colours have been dropped by Boots (in the UK) and I can't get them anywhere now. I hope it's not because of the boycott or the bad publicity. If they've been taken off the market that would be disasterous.Fudgefasehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02424840684358025769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-68033320599773625992012-09-26T12:27:13.537-07:002012-09-26T12:27:13.537-07:00Why don't you edit your blog so that your phot...Why don't you edit your blog so that your photos cannot be copy and pasted? My blog prohibits right clicks on any images...Crafty Like Lindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13240238710061892476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-1558768774255702762012-08-26T07:51:06.472-07:002012-08-26T07:51:06.472-07:00I like how you've tried to handle this as neut...I like how you've tried to handle this as neutrally as you could. Classy.Lindsay Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10252964550691862252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-11574136896586106822012-08-24T15:39:19.097-07:002012-08-24T15:39:19.097-07:00I wouldn't have expected this from such a big ...I wouldn't have expected this from such a big companymy pretty paintshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07704159362456570908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-44089239587479943572012-07-29T00:48:53.986-07:002012-07-29T00:48:53.986-07:00Thanks, Donna. I appreciate that.Thanks, Donna. I appreciate that.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16658662222451658254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-17674717624745792252012-07-28T22:52:22.669-07:002012-07-28T22:52:22.669-07:00Nicole, reread what you quoted. G clearly said &qu...Nicole, reread what you quoted. G clearly said "attack". You can disagree with someone without attacking them and that's all she meant. If you read the comments you would see that several of us did disagree, but none of us attacked G or the other commenters. Just one example, I disagreed and stated that I would be boycotting Sinful Colors, until this has been resolved satisfactorily for the bloggers involved.Donnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13714518339153250453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-57224242275299923742012-07-28T11:58:15.581-07:002012-07-28T11:58:15.581-07:00Nicole:
The very fact that I could have deleted y...Nicole:<br /><br />The very fact that I could have deleted your comment, but chose to (happily) publish it, negates your argument. But in case you think I did that just to prove a point, I'll continue...<br /><br />The danger in "skimming" (your word, not mine) the comments on this post is that you can wrongfully accuse someone of doing something they did not, in any way, actually do.<br /><br />If you'd like to scroll back up and actually READ all of the comments on this post, you'll clearly see that I approved all of the comments that I 100% disagree with. In fact, I wrote a lengthy, civil response to a civil comment that took an opposing stance to my original blog post on this matter.<br /><br />If you need further proof of my NON-censorship, I'd be happy to point out the exact comments on this post that I disagree with. But I think if you actually read through the comments, this would become self-evident.<br /><br />Yes, I am "just a blogger" as you so clearly pointed out, however I do actually have a life outside of this blog, and that's why I haven't been able to reply to all of the comments on this post. As I pointed out in a past blog post, I'm behind on ALL comments right now (not just this post) and my responses in general stopped a few days ago (although I've been happily approving all comments since then.<br /><br />Given the last sentence in your comment, you probably won't be coming back to actually read this response, but if you do, I hope this clears up the issues you seem to have with me and my "censorship". <br /><br />To be a accused of censorship regarding this or any other blog post on this blog truly troubles me, since I have, from the very start, welcomed opposing points of view. You just could not be more wrong about this.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br />G.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16658662222451658254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-48004105364612800062012-07-27T21:18:50.269-07:002012-07-27T21:18:50.269-07:00In the grand scheme of things I realize you are ju...In the grand scheme of things I realize you are just a blogger who reviews make-up products on the internet so I'm not quite sure why I feel so disappointed in you. I have always valued your opinion and thought of you as an honest reviewer but not anymore. Your satement "Comments that attack what I've said, or what other readers say will NEVER be approved, so please do not even attempt that. I think it's important to discuss our feelings though, especially when it's about a brand many of us have been loyal to for a long time. So I encourage meaningful discussion if you'd like to express your feelings..." basically says if I don't agree with you my comment won't be approved and skimming over your comments all I see is "I agree with you...." Now that I know that you sensor your readers comments and only post the things you agree with I won't be coming back. Good luck to you.Nicole Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08201110410882106820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-84945310673561328492012-07-27T05:44:48.196-07:002012-07-27T05:44:48.196-07:00I have a lot of Sinful Colors in my stash, and I&#...I have a lot of Sinful Colors in my stash, and I'm not going to be getting rid of them. Until I hear this situation has been resolved to the satisfaction of the two bloggers involved, I'm not going to buy any more Sinful or feature the brand on my blog. I have no problem with Revlon; I think their response has been appropriate, and I believe they had no idea what was going on with this until it was brought to their attention.KarenDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05022790587742613590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-25391410031091720852012-07-26T17:19:03.042-07:002012-07-26T17:19:03.042-07:00Whoa.... I picked a heck of a day (yesterday) to s...Whoa.... I picked a heck of a day (yesterday) to stay away from my computer!<br /><br />I like and respect your take on this, G. I also hope that it is the bloggers in question who feel good (as good as they will be able to feel) about the ultimate resolution.<br /><br />I agree with others that the blogging community does a great job of looking out for one another, and I hope that this will continue. Look how people were able to "Keep them honest..." It's like certain eagle-eyed individuals helped do an "Anderson Cooper" on this company. --> Since I am late to the game, and the blogger's post has now gone private, I don't know how all this came to light. But I am guessing people saw a Sinful Colors pamphlet somewhere and recognized the pictures as belonging to some well-known bloggers.thebirdofparadisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01080927243868980272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-78186744826544133932012-07-26T15:59:58.872-07:002012-07-26T15:59:58.872-07:00I think this reaction is a bit excessive. And in...I think this reaction is a bit excessive. And in comparison to the frenzy over the 99 cent sale, you would think none Of us had nothing in this world to worry about except this brand. They made a mistake, the company took responsibility. what is there left to discuss? The internet is a tricky Place And you cant control everything. Those Of you With clean hands can throw those stones, but i bet i wont hear a pebble fall.D.A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05902483470546917552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-47950114611940312922012-07-26T12:28:29.828-07:002012-07-26T12:28:29.828-07:00That really means a lot to me, Isis. Thank you so ...That really means a lot to me, Isis. Thank you so very much. xoG.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16658662222451658254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-1182214309231940472012-07-26T12:12:49.211-07:002012-07-26T12:12:49.211-07:00I, too, am no legal expert, but I do know that &qu...I, too, am no legal expert, but I do know that "Tiffany Blue" is a trademarked color under U.S. law. If you're interested, the U.S. case of "Qualitex Co. v. Jacobson Products Co., Inc." found that colors can be trademarked under certain conditions. In art school we learned about "International Klein Blue" being an example of a patented color under French law. Also, (a little less related), I believe last year Louboutin was denied a trademark on his red-soled heels in his lawsuit against YSL (in French court).<br /><br />Now, in all these examples, I *cannot* speak to the actual legal implications...to me it all seems...murky. Like, how are the names "Tiffany Blue" and "International Klein Blue" allowed to be designated hex triplets in computing? Just food for thought :)polihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08898823892777587664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-59255011551453204012012-07-26T11:37:48.813-07:002012-07-26T11:37:48.813-07:00I think I will boycott Sinful Colors until I find ...I think I will boycott Sinful Colors until I find out that a settlement has been reached with the bloggers. It's the only voice I have to let them know that I think what they did was wrong, so I will use it.<br /><br />And for those who think it's ridiculous that Sinful Colors uses a photo that doesn't even have their nail polish featured. They and other polish companies do that all the time in their displays and promotional materials. They use stock photos and photoshop in an approximation of their nail polish on the models nails. That's why it would be a match made in heaven if they would work out a deal with bloggers who do have excellent photos to use them in their ads and other materials...with their real polish being used!<br /><br />This is what I am talking about in the above, read the comments:<br />http://lacquerlaine.blogspot.com/2011/01/new-drug-store-finds.htmlDonnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13714518339153250453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-80134457872523762632012-07-26T11:07:39.057-07:002012-07-26T11:07:39.057-07:00I respectfully disagree that to have something you...I respectfully disagree that to have something you own stolen is a compliment. I seriously doubt anyone here would consider it a compliment if someone stole an online photo of you or your child and Photoshopped it into pornography. An extreme example, and yes, once you put something up on the internet you can't control what happens to it, but that doesn't mean it's OK.Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07970082278033913539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-57468155288794207292012-07-26T10:29:23.653-07:002012-07-26T10:29:23.653-07:00I do not believe Revlon has any hand in this, ther...I do not believe Revlon has any hand in this, therefore I would not boycott them. Also, as many have stated, who knows how all of this came to be, who did what. To be honest I did consider boycotting Sinful Colors, but wanted to wait and see if the issue was publicly addressed. Now that it has been (and I sincerely hope they DO make this right with the bloggers) I don't feel the need to boycott, but I totally understand if someone else wanted to. Hopefully we won't see this happen again.Jaimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07687495423933578919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-31295427320380707942012-07-26T09:17:26.501-07:002012-07-26T09:17:26.501-07:00I'm sorry, I just don't agree. If I am a c...I'm sorry, I just don't agree. If I am a consumer, I have a right to know what the companies I am buying from are up to; it personally affects ALL consumers when a company steals, whether it is an honest mistake or not. Someone said in another comment they couldn't "afford" to lose a contract by standing up to something that was morally wrong. It is not JUST a moral issue, it is a very LEGAL issue.<br /><br />Morals, and standing up for what is right, should not be an issue of convenience.KDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10280256666279850361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-74041544187510828692012-07-26T09:09:53.737-07:002012-07-26T09:09:53.737-07:00What I would like to see is a win/win for both par...What I would like to see is a win/win for both parties involved.<br /><br />I adore both of the bloggers involved with this mess, and when I hit up the Sinful Colors sale I knew I saw the mani somewhere. I just couldn't place exactly where and by whom. <br /><br />I am your average nail polish user, often buy way more than I usually use (or have time for) and enjoy reading nail blogs. I admire their creativity and often swatches provided on nail blogs or other beauty blogs help me decide if I even want to hunt down a color, or if something just might work for me. Like I said I am a casual user of nail polish, and if I am persuaded by what I see, think of how many others like me are pushed off the buying fence by reading blogs.<br /><br />IMO if more nail companies owned up to reading nail/beauty blogs, and they were to showcase some bloggers artwork with proper acknowledgements this could be a match made in heaven!<br /><br />Boycotting is such a personal choice, and who am I to say what is right or wrong for someone. I can only make the choice that works best for me. And I admit, the quickness of Revlon and Sinful Colors taking action does work in their favor.JoEllahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02473710621925363027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-48161381421816163852012-07-26T08:43:35.508-07:002012-07-26T08:43:35.508-07:00I don't know how I've been so behind on th...I don't know how I've been so behind on this nail news! I agree that boycotting revlon seems a bit much. I do not own any sinful colors polishes (to my knowledge they are not available in Canada) however I will not support the company regardless. This is so unethical on so many levels, and I still don't understand why they used a picture where the color club label is so visibleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-42057554167702832222012-07-26T07:36:05.416-07:002012-07-26T07:36:05.416-07:00Ok... the link says she has set the content to pri...Ok... the link says she has set the content to private. I have a vague idea what is going on from the comments, but that's it.KDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10280256666279850361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-65265363475850701732012-07-26T07:35:56.137-07:002012-07-26T07:35:56.137-07:00I'm no legal expert, but I believe it's im...I'm no legal expert, but I believe it's impossible to trademark a color per se. A color NAME for a particular product, yes, but not the color itself. Otherwise, the world would have only one shirt of a particular shade, one pair of shoes, one car, and so forth. I personally am glad that various cosmetics companies come up with very similar shades to pricey Chanel and Dior polishes.Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07970082278033913539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-46766810417626321782012-07-26T07:31:15.811-07:002012-07-26T07:31:15.811-07:00vesperbeauty, I'm curious -- if you produce so...vesperbeauty, I'm curious -- if you produce something with images you know or suspect to be stolen, doesn't that open you up for legal liability? I'm not making judgements here, just truly wondering.Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07970082278033913539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-60709881970605318162012-07-26T05:59:22.604-07:002012-07-26T05:59:22.604-07:00I do agree with you. I respect all the hard work b...I do agree with you. I respect all the hard work bloggers and feel their work is under appreciated. Although, I do feel this is between the ones who were wronged and the ones who wronged them. If each party can come to an agreement then we should respect their decision. I really hate that this happened. I do not want to boycott SC, I am sure there was a reason Revlon acquired them. I love nailpolish and often post my pic, which often includes having used SC, on my FB page ( still too shy to post on a blog yet ;-) Hopefully this can serve as a reminder to all the proper way of getting great pictures and the steps that need to be taken. Thank you so much for your posts, they keep me up to date, otherwise I would have. It known about this. I do know that with this happening I have found more bloggers to follow that I had never known about before.lottevamphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17845121532182442253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-1357691268673861522012-07-26T05:52:21.455-07:002012-07-26T05:52:21.455-07:00I agree. I worked doing page design for newspapers...I agree. I worked doing page design for newspapers a while back, and while we were pretty vigilant -- you couldn't just "grab" stuff since we had to make sure the source/photographer was credited -- but with people doing more work in the same amount of time, it can get messy. I also freelance write and sometimes you're provided with contacts and data to start off with, and then other times you're starting from square one. Then, for using someone else's work, there is the attitude of "they put it on the Internet, so it's fine to use." Of course if you're a freelancer, writer, designer, photographer, a good editor, etc., you're usually more inclined to give credit or provide a link since you wouldn't want the same done to you. But an agency, a client, a publisher can have a different attitude. Pretty trumps honesty, sometimes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05115562479179142865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-923437194678664102.post-17142030844022129282012-07-26T05:21:42.063-07:002012-07-26T05:21:42.063-07:00Agreed 100%. I'm not boycotting either brand -...Agreed 100%. I'm not boycotting either brand - in this day and age, with so many specialized companies for creating pamphlets, reprographics, marketing/business development, graphic design, etc., only the individual responsible for actually taking those photos into their work is really to blame. I don't think it's representative of EITHER company as a whole - Sinful's many many promo displays always have their own original art on the promo and Revlon's use of their products on their spokeswomen prove that. The little nail art pamphlets, as far as I know, were a recent addition to the Sinful displays. A marketing effort turned bad? I don't know. But I love Sinful and Revlon regardless (though I believe that Revlon didn't know and Sinful even may not have known if they had outsourced for the pamphlets), and I do hope they make it right with the bloggers.florencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16685069120407742762noreply@blogger.com